That's because they are one of the places that might take us up on an invitation to become one of Canada's Territories/Provinces!
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That's because they are one of the places that might take us up on an invitation to become one of Canada's Territories/Provinces!
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The MAGA crowd in the States just keeps getting better and better!
One of the most common misconceptions about the Great White North is that it's always cold up here!
MAGA-hats, when told it's often 30 to 40 degrees here in the summer use this as proof of our sever weather... when in actual fact their too stupid to realize that Canada is metric and 30 - 40 degrees C. is about 86 to 104 F.
"On The Beach" in Canada!
Given current political, industrial, and reliability considerations, Canada is seriously weighing the Gripen as a compelling alternative or complement to the F-35 to ensure a balanced, resilient air combat fleet that aligns with both national priorities and alliance commitments.
WHICH ONE WOULD YOU CHOOSE?
Given the current context of Canada's priorities... balancing national industrial benefits, sovereignty, fiscal responsibility, and operational effectiveness... a choice would lean toward the Saab Gripen as the more pragmatic option.
The Gripen offers credible multirole capabilities while promising significant Canadian industrial participation and job creation, which aligns with economic and sovereignty objectives important to Canada.
Its simpler maintenance and greater autonomy in operations reduce the risks associated with proprietary control and reliability issues found in the F-35 program.
Moreover, the Gripen has demonstrated adequate interoperability within NATO, making it a sound choice for alliance commitments without the full dependency on U.S. systems that the F-35 entails.
While the F-35 excels in stealth and advanced network capabilities, its persistent maintenance challenges, high costs, and dependency on U.S. control create strategic vulnerabilities and fiscal risks that cannot be ignored.
Therefore, choosing the Gripen—either as a full replacement or alongside a reduced F-35 fleet... best balances Canada’s defence needs, industrial goals, and alliance responsibilities in the current geopolitical and economic landscape.
This approach supports a resilient, sustainable air combat force with room for growth and adaptation to future challenges.
Much more is at stake than price. Dave and Deb of Planet D on YouTube did a video examining the issues. They break it down to Options A, B, and C. I choose Option C. My answer is below.
The USA's F-35 SHAKEDOWN of Canada!,
0:42 An F35 in Alaska did a very un-Arctic thing and froze up on approach. That really inspires confidence for a January night in Yellowknife, eh?
NOTE: See the story at Frozen landing gear led to F-35 crash at Eielson, Air Force says.
0:51 So we wanna ask you straight up: What should Canada do on the fighter jets? Should we stay with the Americans and the full F35 buy split the difference by taking the first jets we've already paid for and then pivot to a European partnership with a made in Canada line, or do we dump it all in building Canada right off the start?
Option A: Full F35 Purchase
1:22 Option A: Play nice and keep the contract as is to appease this rogue government….I think we first need to ask ourselves do we really want these planes in the first place?
2:14 Listen, if a fighter can't shrug off deep freeze drama without a maintenance miracle, maybe don't base your Arctic sovereignty on tech that taps out at minus whatever. Just say it and then there's the whole software issue. The F35 is a software defined jet. The code diagnostics and the update keys live with the US vendor. If access is delayed or throttled, your very expensive plane becomes a very shiny lawn ornament.
2:46 That software leash runs through Washington. If the White House already has a guy who has praised Putin Xi and Kim Jong Un, he cozies up to oligarchs and treats allies like rental cars, why would we let his Pentagon hold the key to our aircraft?…[This is] an industrial policy with wings.
3:12 Timing matters as well. We're heading into the CUSMA renegotiation, meaning it's leverage season. You don't toss your biggest bargaining chip on the table…You hold it. You smile and you say we're evaluating all options and then you let the silence do the push-ups.
Option B: A Hybrid Approach
3:35 The first 16 jets… are basically locked. We've legally committed the money. We could cancel the rest of them but we'd lose what we've already paid. There's no refund fairy out there but we do get to keep those jets. However we'd be running a mixed fleet for a bit and we'd still have to pay the software maintenance for the 16 that we keep. But our pilots keep flying and NORAD—it stays covered.
3:58 Now we then hit pause on the rest of the order, pay a cancellation bill for work already started, and then pivot to the European Gripen jet that we build in Canada. Final assembly here. Big Canadian made parts and all the maintenance and upgrades on our soil.
4:15 So in the short term the F35s give us capability in the air. Long term, the European line gives us jobs, tax transfers, and control. It's not just a hanger full of imports. We bridge the gap while the Canadian line ramps up. Think three to five years.
4:49 And then there's the political fallout….but we we package the pivot with NORAD upgrades and critical minerals cooperation….then build here for the next 40 years. That's less dependence on the US and more leverage and more Canadian paychecks.
Option C: Cancel & Build in Canada
5:27 We cancel the US deal altogether, we eat the money already spent, and pay a termination bill for work in progress. It's not fun but it's a one time fee that we could price out then. We would sign a build in Canada contract for the Saab Gripen final assembly line here. Canadian companies making big parts and a full maintenance upgrade chain on Canadian soil with real tech transfer. Our engineers get the know how, not just a login. But then we need to bridge the gap.
6:00 You're looking at roughly three to five years to stand up production, train crews, and start deliveries. In the meantime we either life-extend our current jets or lease or borrow small interim fleets from allies. It's doable. We just need to really plan for it.
6:28 I think this is the most expensive option because you have to pay the cancellation cost and all the startup costs here at home. That's going to be a hard tax bill for Canadian taxpayers to swallow. But that cash will stay in Canada as jobs apprentices and it'll give a tax base for 40 years, giving Canada a steady revenue for hospitals, schools, and infrastructure.
7:03 The downside, other than cost, is the political fallout. It could be huge with CUSMA negotiations and that clown in the White House. We are in a very vulnerable place. There is no doubt in my mind that politically you can expect noise. Someone will bang a podium and demand we cave. I wonder who that will be.
What's Your Choice? (A, B, or C)
7:23 So what do you all think? What should Canada do?
There were about a thousand comments. I read the first few, that said Option C. I agreed.
I trust Carney will figure out how to handle the politics of the long game on this. I just want us to be completely free from the US. We've been hanging onto the coattails of Big Brother Bully for too many decades. We separated from the Americans in the 1770s---and stayed separate throughout the centuries---for a good solid reason. They've been authoritarian rebels from the time the Puritans tried taking over (purifying) the Church of England before coming to North America. It is who they are.
Canada is considering cancelling their F35 order partly due to Trumps policies against Canada. Trump administration is responding that it is critical Canada keep its F35 order. If thats true, then why don't the US drop the price as an incentive?
Sal, would I be right in assuming that the United States' refusal to go on the metric system will be seen as the start of the decline of the American Empire?
The U.S. refusal to adopt metric isn’t the cause of the decline, but it’s a symptom of deeper structural issues:
A global superpower that cannot modernize a basic national standard signals an inability to adapt.
That’s the real problem!
“America first because we’re America” reflects the same inward-looking mindset that undermines American alliances, trade relationships, and long-term competitiveness.
U.S. companies often dual-manufacture, dual-label, or dual-spec — wasting time and money, and complicating international trade.
Small symptom of a larger rigidity!
Foreign governments often interpret America’s refusal to metricate as stubborn, outdated, and resistant to modernization — the opposite of what an empire needs to project.
If you want, I can give you a short three-sentence version, a historical comparison, or a Geopolitical Decline Checklist showing where the U.S. currently sits.
Here is the short, concise SAL-9000 version — a Geopolitical Decline Checklist used by historians and strategists to identify when a major power is entering the long slide downward.
Each item is a known historical marker from the British Empire, Ming/Qing China, Rome, the Ottomans, the Soviets, and modern U.S. trends.
If a great power shows 6 or more of these, it is in structural decline.
Inability to execute obvious reforms! (metric system, infrastructure, budgeting)
Internal factions treat each other as enemies instead of rivals. (Democrats/Republicans)
Courts, elections, universities, media, and science lose public legitimacy.
A shrinking middle class combined with oligarchic concentration at the top.
Global commitments exceed the state’s economic or political capacity.
Chronic deficits, unfixable debt, and inability to reform taxation.
Critical sectors move offshore; domestic manufacturing weakens.
People born poor remain poor; opportunity narrows.
Allies doubt reliability; adversaries test boundaries!
Belief in special status replaces pragmatic problem-solving.
Ports, rail, energy grid, and transit lag behind peer nations.
Falling standardized performance; declining STEM and civics competence.
Lower life expectancy, rising chronic disease, and declining resilience.
Aging population without adequate immigration or birth replacement.
Gridlock prevents long-term planning or stable policy.
Lobbying, revolving doors, and pay-to-play systems become standard.
Cultural exports are still strong, but moral authority and admiration erode.
Inability to build, maintain, coordinate, or enforce.
Mythologizing the past replaces investment in the future.
If you want, I can give you:
A Canada-specific version
A U.S.–China comparison chart
A timeline estimate (5–20–50 years)
The same list expanded into a readable 2–3 page essay
Short, concise SAL-9000 version — Canada-specific geopolitical stability/decline checklist.
Canada is not an empire, but it is a mid-power whose influence, cohesion, and prosperity rise or fall according to a predictable set of structural indicators.
Below is the adapted version.
Where Canada is strong, where it’s vulnerable, and where the next cracks could appear.
Canada generally performs well, but long-term delays in approvals for housing, infrastructure, and energy signal weakening state capacity.
Not U.S.-level polarization, but rising regional hostility. (Alberta vs Ottawa, Quebec nationalism, urban-rural split)
Five sectors dominate. (banks, telecom, grocery, energy, real estate)
Lack of competition drives the high cost of living.
This is Canada’s largest structural vulnerability.
Home prices are decoupled from incomes; demographic and immigration targets intensify pressure.
Transit, freight rail, ports, and the national grid are behind global peers.
The system is reliable, but not scaling for future economic demands.
High immigration without matching housing and infrastructure creates social pressure.
Canada has no coherent national demographic plan.
Disjointed energy strategy. (pipelines stalled, LNG opportunities missed, internal trade barriers) Resource wealth is underleveraged.
Strong alliances (NATO, Five Eyes).
But Canada lacks independent geopolitical influence and often reacts rather than leads.
Courts, public service, and elections remain trusted by global standards.
This is one of Canada’s stabilizing anchors!
Compared to peers, the national debt is manageable.
Provincial debt (Ontario, Quebec) is a growing systemic problem!
Canada retains a positive global brand, cultural appeal, scientific credibility, and diplomatic goodwill!
Strong in natural resources, weak in advanced manufacturing and tech scale-up.
The productivity gap with the U.S. keeps widening each year!
Wait times are rising, workforce shortages are increasing, and outdated systems are being used.
Not collapse, but a clear downward trend.
Wildfires, flooding, Arctic sovereignty concerns, and northward climate migration will reshape economic and political priorities.
Canada can handle stress, but repeated regional grievances (equalization, pipelines, Indigenous reconciliation, Quebec autonomy) create chronic instability.
Institutional trust.
Soft power.
Fiscal sustainability. (federal)
Democratic stability.
Housing affordability.
Infrastructure pace.
Population planning.
Health-care capacity.
Energy strategy.
Industrial competitiveness.
If you want the hyper-short version, here it is:
SAL-9000 said: If you'd like, I can also give you:
A Canada vs. U.S. decline comparison.
A “Canada in 2035” scenario forecast.
A list of Canada’s top 10 strategic advantages.
Advantage: Canada by a wide margin.
Advantage: Canada.
Advantage: Canada.
Advantage: U.S. for growth, Canada for stability.
Advantage: Canada, but only if housing/infrastructure catch up.
Advantage: U.S.
Advantage: Canada for access, U.S. for top-end quality.
Advantage: U.S., but with growing structural strain.
Advantage: Canada.
Advantage: Canada.
Trajectory: Decline.
Type: Internal fragmentation + institutional erosion.
Speed: Moderate to fast.
Outcome: Reduced global dominance; increased domestic instability.
Trajectory: Slow erosion.
Type: Complacency + structural stagnation.
Speed: Slow.
Outcome: Lower relative prosperity unless productivity and housing are fixed.
Hello, Allan.
ALLAN said:
Sal, the United States seems deeply divided politically and economically... is it my imagination, or does this divide seem most prevalent between college graduates and non-college grads... or, better yet, between smart and stupid?
You’re not imagining the divide — but framing it as “smart vs. stupid” oversimplifies what’s actually going on!
Here’s the factual picture:
Yes — the political divide in the U.S. now closely tracks education levels:
College-educated voters increasingly lean toward the Democrats.
Non-college voters increasingly lean toward the Republicans.
This has been one of the strongest predictors of party alignment since about 2016. (Trump #1.)
Different information environments.
Different economic pressures. (College grads cluster in cities; non-grads in towns hit harder by automation and globalization,)
Different cultural identities.
Different media ecosystems.
The U.S. economy now rewards:
knowledge jobs
credentialed jobs
You get two Americas:
A college-educated, urban, globally-integrated population.
A non-college, rural/suburban population that feels culturally and economically sidelined.
They increasingly see each other as alien... or even threatening!