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Friday, 25 April 2025

U.S. States That Almost Became Part of Canada!

 The map of North America could have looked very different today. 

Many U.S. states nearly flew the Canadian flag instead of the stars and stripes due to border fights, land deals, and political battles that happened long ago.

The shared border between the United States and Canada wasn’t always clear, and both countries fought over land for years. 

These States were caught in the middle of these fights and almost ended up on the Canadian side of history, changing what both countries would look like forever.

Maine:

Big toss-up on whether Maine should go with the "Americans" or the British... decision still up in the air!
Vermont:

Vermont existed as an independent republic from 1777 to 1791 and considered joining British North America. Ethan Allen and the Green Mountain Boys held discussions with British representatives about Vermont potentially becoming a Canadian province. Vermont officials negotiated with both nations to determine the most beneficial arrangement. The territory ultimately became the 14th U.S. state in 1791, though historical records indicate this decision was not unanimous.

Minnesota:

The northern Minnesota territory was disputed, with Britain seeking the mineral-rich Mesabi Range for Canada. Initial boundary proposals placed the northern shore of Lake Superior under British control. This resource-rich area became an important consideration during negotiations following the War of 1812. The boundary established by the 1842 treaty placed Minnesota’s northern border at the 49th parallel, securing these natural resources for the United States.

Montana:


Northern Montana was claimed by Britain during multiple border disagreements throughout the 19th century. The Hudson’s Bay Company established trading posts and developed relationships with Native American tribes across the region. British diplomats attempted to secure territories south of the 49th parallel, particularly focusing on areas with strategic water routes. The Oregon Treaty of 1846 established Montana’s northern boundary at the 49th parallel, though the physical border survey wasn’t completed until the 1870s.

Michigan's Upper Peninsula:


British forces occupied Mackinac Island and influenced the Upper Peninsula region following the War of 1812. Military authorities requested that the entire Upper Peninsula remain under British control as part of Canada. Their territorial claim was based on military presence and established commercial networks throughout the region. The Treaty of Ghent in 1814 returned the peninsula to American control, though the final Great Lakes boundary wasn’t fully determined until the Webster-Ashburton Treaty of 1842.

North Dakota:


The border placement along the 49th parallel created territorial uncertainty in North Dakota for several decades. Hudson’s Bay Company established trading operations while Métis communities developed settlements near the unmarked boundary. Survey errors regarding Fort Pembina’s location contributed to geographical misunderstandings about the exact border. The boundary was officially designated in 1818 but remained unmarked until surveys were conducted in the 1870s, creating an area of jurisdictional uncertainty.

Alaska:


Russia approached both Britain and the United States when seeking to sell its Alaskan territory. Canadian representatives showed interest in acquiring the territory to extend their western territories to the Pacific Ocean. Secretary of State William Seward completed the purchase for the United States in 1867 for $7.2 million. This acquisition prevented Alaska’s substantial natural resources from becoming Canadian assets.

Wisconsin:


The fur trade made northern Wisconsin strategically important during early boundary negotiations between the United States and British North America. The Great Lakes watershed boundary was contested, with Britain claiming areas farther south than the current border. British commercial enterprises had established trading networks that they sought to maintain through territorial control. The Treaty of Paris in 1783 created a preliminary boundary, though disputes continued until the Webster-Ashburton Treaty established the final border in 1842.

New York:


Northern New York remained under British military presence for years following the American Revolution. The regions surrounding the St. Lawrence River and Lake Champlain were considered strategically significant by both nations. British military forces maintained control of forts despite treaty obligations to withdraw from American territory. The Jay Treaty of 1794 finally secured British military withdrawal, though border questions continued into the early 19th century.

Monday, 27 January 2025

Hell no... we won't go!

 Allan:

If Trump’s brainfart to annex Canada becomes a real thing then non-MAGA American states such as California should fight to become provinces of Canada where books are read and not burnt, women decide what to do with their bodies, healthcare is universal, medicine is cheap and no one falls out of the social security net as is the case in ‘dog eat dog’ America.

George from California!

Thursday, 8 October 2020

If the US annexed Canada, would it help alleviate the US's national debt situation?

Allan

It would probably be the beginning of the end for the United States. Canada doesn’t have a huge military, but they have vast amounts of land, lightly populated with stubborn sumbitches who know how to fend off bears.

Major Canadian cities would fall quickly to the overwhelming onslaught of US military might, but a bitter insurgency would spring up across the interior, as guerilla bands emerge from the wilderness to pepper US forces with rifles and improvised explosive devices. The sprawling road network would become too dangerous to traverse, especially in the mountainous west of the continent, where pockets of rebels hunker down for a long resistance. Canada becomes a chain of urban islands in a vast, dangerous wilderness.

Imagine the international outrage if the world’s self-styled superpower made such an aggressive move. We would become a pariah - cut off from commerce, hit with massive sanctions, and penalized in the currency exchange. Our adversaries would be emboldened, and would form new alliances to contain U.S. aggression. Look for skirmishes to pop up in the numerous places we are exposed across the world. Terrorist attacks would increase in frequency against our embassies and military bases.

Despite the new windfall in timber and other natural resources, we would be plunged into a deep depression as firms relying on exports close down. Banks would fail as interest in US securities falls, and the dollar would simultaneously plunge in value against the Euro as countries divest themselves of US currency.

Cut off from international export and financial markets, major Canadian cities would also fall into a deep depression, and the U.S., spread thin between too many military conflicts and hemorrhaging money, would most likely crumble from within and collapse within a few years.

While the other Western powers are grappling with the shift in power, Russia would be emboldened to grab more territory from Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Iran and other US foes would take advantage of the power vacuum, seizing the Strait of Hormuz and cutting off the flow of oil from the region. Israel is drawn into a war of attrition, as long-standing resentments boil over into a steady stream of mortar attacks and suicide bombings.

The European Union is racked by competing pressures, as some countries ramp up military activity in the Middle East. Age-old resentments resurface on the European continent, and NATO loses its power to contain Russian expansion.

Meanwhile, India and China finally have the opportunity they are looking for to emerge as international superpowers. As the U.S. crumbles, Asian powers flow across the Pacific, forging powerful alliances in South and Central America, that bring economic development, immigration, and military bases to protect their new allies from the U.S. Russia intervenes in Central America, offering to stabilize Honduras, Nicaragua, and El Salvador from violence.

As the U.S. devolves into anarcho-oligarchy, billionaire robber barons seize the reins of power, and criminal organizations grow in power. Mexico becomes the conduit for illicit American activity, as New York, Chicago, and other major cities are cut off from London and other financial centers. International criminal elements move to Mexico City en masse, and Mexico becomes a lawless place.


David Cannon