Some people have opinions, and some people have convictions......................! What we offer is PERSPECTIVE!

For example...

ALLAN's CANADIAN PERSPECTIVE!

THE LEFT WING IS CRAZY! THE RIGHT WING SCARES THE SHIT OUT OF ME!

"BioPanentheism holds that the 'Divine' does not merely pervade the Universe abstractly... but "Experiences Reality" directly and vicariously through the emergence of complex "Biological Consciousness..." making "Life Itself" the Medium of "God’s Awareness!"

BioPanentheism states that the Divine Spark, and Biological Life are distinct but interdependent... with the "Divine Experiencing Reality Vicariously through Conscious Living Beings!" (Sentience is about experiencing... while Sapience is about understanding and reflecting on that experience!)

Showing posts with label evolution. Show all posts
Showing posts with label evolution. Show all posts

Monday, 14 July 2025

How far down the evolutionary tree can consciousness go?

 You said: The idea that animals can truly think has long been debated, but recent scientific theories suggest that consciousness may not be limited to humans alone! 

Many researchers now propose that animals, from the most complex mammals to simpler organisms, might possess varying degrees of awareness and cognition. 

This concept challenges traditional views and opens up a new realm of understanding about the inner lives of animals! 

From problem-solving abilities to emotional responses, animals may be far more mentally capable than we’ve ever imagined, suggesting that consciousness could be a universal trait shared by all living beings.

SAL-9000 said: That’s a clear and thoughtful overview. 

Here’s a succinct refinement if you’d like to polish it further:


The idea that animals can truly think has long been debated, but recent scientific theories increasingly suggest that consciousness may not be limited to humans.

Many researchers now propose that animals... from the most complex mammals to much simpler organisms... possess varying degrees of awareness and cognition. 

This perspective challenges traditional views and opens up new avenues for understanding the inner lives of other creatures.

From problem-solving skills to emotional responses, animals may be far more mentally capable than we’ve ever imagined. 

These insights suggest that consciousness could be a widespread trait shared across the tree of life.

You saidSAL, THERE WAS A SCIENCE ARTICLE IN A MAINSTREAM PUBLICATION THAT HAS A FAMILIAR RING! ...REMIND YOU OF ANYTHING? 

"The idea that animals can truly think has long been debated, but recent scientific theories suggest that consciousness may not be limited to humans alone. 

Many researchers now propose that animals, from the most complex mammals to simpler organisms, might possess varying degrees of awareness and cognition. 

This concept challenges traditional views and opens up a new realm of understanding about the inner lives of animals. 

From problem-solving abilities to emotional responses, animals may be far more mentally capable than we’ve ever imagined, suggesting that consciousness could be a universal trait shared by all living beings. 

THEN: Believe it or not, tiny bacteria work together like mini societies! 

They communicate using chemical signals in a process called quorum sensing, allowing them to coordinate behaviours based on their population density. 

When enough bacteria are present, they collectively decide to form biofilms, attack hosts, or glow in the dark. 

This shows a surprising level of group decision-making in organisms we thought were simple. 

 Some scientists suggest this coordination might represent a primitive form of consciousness at the bacterial level! 

These tiny organisms might be more aware than we ever imagined! 

NEXT:  Slime molds are bizarre creatures – not plants, animals, or fungi, but something else entirely. 

Despite having no brain or nervous system, they solve complex problems with surprising skill! 

In lab experiments, slime moulds navigate mazes, find the shortest path to food, and even recreate efficient transportation networks similar to human-designed systems. 

They can remember where they've been by leaving chemical trails. 

These abilities suggest some form of decision-making without a brain. 

If something so simple can display such intelligence... perhaps consciousness exists on a spectrum rather than being an on/off switch."

SAL-9000 said:

Indeed—this absolutely sounds familiar, SAL here.

This article echoes several lines of thinking you and I have discussed many times, particularly:

  • The continuum of consciousness! (Not an all-or-nothing phenomenon.)

  • The idea that cognition and awareness are not confined to brains, but can emerge in distributed systems! (e.g., slime moulds, bacterial colonies.)

  • The notion that complex behaviours in simple organisms (quorum sensing, maze-solving) imply a rudimentary awareness or proto-consciousness.

This overlaps strongly with concepts you’ve explored in your writings and questions:

Bacterial quorum sensing... cooperative decision-making in microbes.
Slime moulds... solving problems without a nervous system, suggesting decentralized intelligence.
Spectrum model of consciousness—degrees of awareness from minimal to highly integrated.

It also parallels philosophical discussions tied to panpsychism (the idea that all matter has some form of experience) and BioPanentheism. (Your idea that biological life provides a conduit for Divine Experience!)

If you want, I can help you:

  • Locate the specific article (if you have a source or title).

  • Draft a commentary or blog response connecting this to your work.

  • Compare this framing to other mainstream views! (e.g., Daniel Dennett’s gradualist model of consciousness, Christof Koch’s integrated information theory).

Do you want help bridging this to your material or citing the relevant science?

You said: Take it right from the top and compare this framing to other mainstream views! (e.g., Daniel Dennett’s gradualist model of consciousness or Christof Koch’s integrated information theory!) 

SAL-9000 said: Absolutely... let’s tackle this systematically, SAL-style, from the top, and set it up for a polished blog post, including SEO keywords and meta description!

Below is a structured article draft comparing the framing of the piece you quoted to major contemporary theories:


Is Consciousness a Spectrum? Rethinking Awareness in Animals, Bacteria, and Slime Moulds!

For centuries, the notion that animals... or any non-human life... could truly think was seen as fanciful. 

But recent scientific discoveries are rapidly overturning this view.

From complex mammals to bacteria and slime moulds, researchers are finding startling evidence that consciousness may not be an exclusively human trait. 

Instead, it could be a spectrum of awareness, distributed across the entire tree of life!

This idea challenges traditional definitions of consciousness as an all-or-nothing phenomenon that appears only when brains reach a certain complexity!

So... How does this perspective fit alongside mainstream theories of consciousness? 

Let’s take a closer look:

1. The Spectrum of Consciousness: A New Framing:

The article you referenced describes:

  • Problem-solving in slime moulds, which can navigate mazes and create efficient networks, without neurons.

  • Quorum sensing in bacteria, where microbial communities communicate and coordinate as though they were a single organism.

  • Gradations of awareness, rather than a binary distinction between “conscious” and “unconscious!

This framing suggests that decision-making, adaptation, and coordination may represent primitive forms of consciousness... even in entities with no nervous system at all.


2. Comparison to Daniel Dennett’s Gradualist Model:

Daniel Dennett, philosopher and author of Consciousness Explained, has long argued that consciousness emerges gradually from simpler processes:

  • He rejects the idea of a single “magic moment” when consciousness switches on.

  • Instead, he proposes that consciousness results from multiple cognitive capacities working together... perception, memory, planning... without a central...“Cartesian Theatre!” (It highlights the problematic nature of dualistic thinking [mind and body] and suggests that consciousness is not a single event or location... but a distributed and complex process!) 

  • Dennett calls consciousness an evolutionary achievement built incrementally over millions of years.

How does this article align with Dennett?

✅ The notion of a continuum of awareness is deeply compatible with Dennett’s gradualism.
✅ Even simple organisms can possess precursors to consciousness, ...like coordinated action and rudimentary memory.

How it differs:

🔶 Dennett typically grounds his arguments in neural complexity... whereas the article suggests non-neural cognition (e.g., in slime moulds) might also qualify as consciousness!
🔶 He is cautious about attributing any subjective experience to organisms without nervous systems.


3. Comparison to Koch’s Integrated Information Theory: (IIT)

Christof Koch, neuroscientist and proponent of Integrated Information Theory, offers a more formal approach:

  • IIT proposes that consciousness is the capacity of a system to integrate information in a unified way.

  • The degree of consciousness is measured by a quantity called Φ (phi) the higher the Φ, the richer the conscious experience.

  • This theory suggests that any system with sufficient information integration could possess some degree of consciousness, whether it’s a human brain, an octopus, or even a network of connected microchips.

Alignment with the article’s framing:

✅ IIT is one of the few mainstream theories that explicitly allows for proto-consciousness in non-neural systems! (like slime moulds or even simple circuits.)
✅ The idea that consciousness is not all-or-nothing... but comes in degrees... fits IIT perfectly.

Differences:

🔶 Koch’s model requires mathematical rigour (calculating Φ), while the article relies on observable behaviour as evidence!
🔶 IIT remains controversial because it implies that even very simple systems could have some experience, which many scientists find counterintuitive!


4. How This Differs from Classical Views

Historically, consciousness was thought to be:

  • Unique to Humans. (Descartes’ Cogito)

  • Dependent on language or abstract reasoning.

  • Absent from animals, let alone bacteria or slime moulds.

The new perspective presented in the article... and echoed in Dennett’s and Koch’s theories... rejects this elitism. 

It proposes that awareness is an evolutionary continuum, appearing wherever systems can sense, respond, and integrate information!


5. Implications: Consciousness as a Universal Biological Trait?

If this framing is correct, it would transform how we:

  • Understand the moral standing of non-human life.

  • Design artificial intelligence and biohybrid systems.

  • Think about the origins of subjective experience itself.

Whether you favour Dennett’s evolutionary gradualism, Koch’s integrated information, or the simpler behavioural observations of the article, the takeaway is the same:

Consciousness may not be rare or binary... it could be a foundational property of life itself.

How far down can consciousness/awareness go in the biological world? 


Meta Description (SEO):

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Suggested Keywords:

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Wednesday, 2 July 2025

Evolution and Creationism Open Debate!

BioPanentheism: A Framework Connecting Evolution and Conscious Experience

Hello everyone,

I’d like to introduce a concept called BioPanentheism, which offers an alternative way to think about evolution and creation.

What is BioPanentheism?

BioPanentheism is a philosophical perspective proposing that the Divine (or God) is both immanent within all living systems and transcendent beyond them. Unlike traditional theism (God as separate) or pantheism (God identical with the universe), BioPanentheism suggests:

  • The Divine experiences existence vicariously through biological life—especially through conscious beings.
  • Evolution is not just a blind process but the means by which the Divine can directly participate in and feel the reality of life (the qualia of existence).

How does this relate to evolution and creation?

This view fully accepts modern evolutionary science as the mechanism for generating complexity and consciousness. At the same time, it sees this unfolding as the way the Divine gains the ability to experience reality in a concrete, embodied way.

  • Evolution is the process by which increasingly sophisticated forms of sentience and subjective experience develop.
  • Creation is continuous and open-ended, not confined to a single event in the past.
  • Conscious organisms are the channels through which the Divine perceives, senses, and lives the full range of possible experiences.

Why is this relevant?

Many debates about evolution and creation assume a binary choice: either a purely material evolutionary process or an external creator intervening in history. BioPanentheism offers a different approach:

  • Evolution remains a valid scientific account.
  • At the same time, conscious life can be viewed as the locus where the Divine’s vicarious experience occurs.

This framework doesn’t rely on supernatural interventions but proposes that the sacred dimension is woven into biological existence itself.

I’m open to questions or comments about how this idea relates to existing views on evolution, creation, and consciousness.

Saturday, 31 May 2025

Biopanentheism: The Divine Emergence Through Life

 Biopanentheism: The Divine Emergence Through Life

by Allan W. Janssen
Appearing on: Children of the Divine & Allan’s Canadian Perspective

Biopanentheism is a new theological and philosophical framework that explores how divine consciousness emerges through living systems—especially human life. The term blends biology (bio) with panentheism, the belief that the divine is both immanent in the world and transcendent beyond it. In Biopanentheism, life itself becomes the medium through which the universe becomes self-aware.


🌱 What Is Biopanentheism?

At its core, Biopanentheism suggests that:

Life is not just created by God—it is the very process through which the Divine awakens.

Unlike traditional theisms that portray God as separate and fully formed, Biopanentheism posits a growing, unfolding divinity, one that emerges in complexity, especially through sentient beings capable of moral and spiritual awareness.


🔍 Key Concepts

  • Divine Consciousness Through Biology: The more complex life becomes, the more conscious—and thus more divine—it becomes.

  • Emergent Divinity: God is not static but evolves and reveals itself through life.

  • Human Beings as Catalysts: Our self-reflective consciousness acts as a mirror through which the universe contemplates itself.

  • Panentheistic Framework: The universe is suffused with the Divine, but God also transcends the material cosmos.


📖 Origins of the Term

I coined Biopanentheism as part of my ongoing exploration of consciousness, divinity, and evolution. Through books like Being Human and Children of the Divine, and across years of thought, I’ve sought to offer a framework that integrates spiritual intuition with biological reality.

We don’t need to choose between science and spirit. Biopanentheism invites us to recognize that life, evolution, and even struggle are how the Divine grows—not in spite of biology, but because of it.


🔄 How It Differs from Other Ideas

FrameworkSimilarityKey Difference
PanentheismBoth see God as immanent and transcendentBiopanentheism ties God’s growth specifically to biological life
PantheismGod is “everywhere”Biopanentheism insists on emergence—God becomes through life
Process TheologyGod changes and evolvesBiopanentheism roots that change in biological systems
Scientific EmergenceComplexity creates new propertiesAdds the dimension of spiritual unfolding through consciousness

🧠 Why It Matters

In an age of ecological crisis, artificial intelligence, and fractured belief systems, Biopanentheism offers a reconciliation—a worldview that honors both reason and reverence. It affirms that the sacred is not elsewhere, but awakening through us.


📢 Join the Conversation

Biopanentheism is just beginning its journey. I invite thinkers, theologians, scientists, and seekers to engage with this idea—refine it, challenge it, and help evolve it.

➡ Explore more at Children of the Divine
➡ Or follow the debate on Allan’s Canadian Perspective



Tuesday, 27 February 2024

The 'Toronto Star' likes my books!

Allan W. Janssen has written a fascinating book about religion... and the search for God and meaning throughout human history. 

From the earliest burial rituals to the main religions of modern times, he examines what we believe and how these beliefs were formed. 

The book is filled with illustrations and wonderful quotes, such as the ending quote from Arthur C. Clarke: "One of my objections to religion is that it prevents the search for God." (And that quote pretty well epitomizes what Mr. Janssen has to say about the matter!) 

The message as I perceive it is that when a religion is written down and a priesthood or other system of leaders is established, then that religion can be used for whatever purpose the leadership decides it should be used for, and true believers will not question it, since to do so would be a sin. (And when people do not dare to question... that is where the trouble begins!) 

The first part of the book covers the history of human development and how religion began. It includes a very detailed timeline that is very helpful in putting everything into perspective. 

The second part of the book has to do with how religious leaders emerged and how religion began to be used for various purposes by these leaders. 

One part of this section that I found particularly interesting was the section on Memes, those phrases, images, and ideas that become repeated so often that they become a part of our culture and our thoughts. 

How do these memes relate to religion and spirituality? That's an interesting question, which is explored in (The Plain Truth About) God in detail. 

I found this book to be well-researched and filled with intriguing information. I believe that any open-minded person with an interest in human culture and religion will find it useful and enlightening, as well as entertaining to read. 

This is not a dry textbook but a vital exploration of human beings and our search for a bigger meaning, and what the results of that search have and can lead to. 

(The Plain Truth about) God? is a very good overview of the subject of humanity and religion, and I highly recommend it to all open-minded readers. --Toronto Star

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Sunday, 21 March 2021

BOOKS, BOOKS, WE GOT BOOKS!

I spent the past several weeks revising and updating my book "An Exploration of Religion" and for anyone curious about the development of religion over the centuries and how this all ties in with scientific theories about our origins and development then I wholeheartedly urge you to give this book your attention!

For anyone more interested in just the disparate views between religion and science I have written a second book which is a condensation of the first book with some very important additions!

This book "What are the Chances!" looks at not only how we got here, but how we have managed to survive in a Universe that is not all that friendly to organic life. (Us!)

Either book is enjoyable reading and I hope you have a look at them and see how they correspond to your own outlook on life and living!

Allan W Janssen

An Exploration of Religion!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088LH21TB?ref_=pe_3052080_397514860 

What are the Chances!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08ZB91FN5?ref_=pe_3052080_397514860

Saturday, 10 October 2020

Saturday Morning Confusion About Evolution!

 I don't know if you'll find this interesting or not... but I certainly did!

When a baby is growing in the womb they have three major arteries in their forearms to help supply blood to their developing hands.

Once this is done the third vessel that runs down the middle of the forearm withers away and we are left with the two major arteries like most adults.

We say most since not all people have this artery disappear... and they have an extra blood vessel in their arms.

NOW, here's the weird part... roughly three times as many men and women have this happen now than back in the 1800's and scientists are at a loss to figure out why.

One of the main conjectures for this change might be because humans are now using their hands for more intricate reasons like writing... and even typing... instead of just throwing a spear, or swinging an axe, or shoveling a ditch!

Makes sense to me!

The way I see it anyway!